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Know what I don't get?

Those "no apologies" icons.

I mean, I get the ones for Buffy or Spike or Xander - these characters tend to be controversial in their own way. So when I see "Buffy fan. No Apologies." or "Spike fan. No apologies." I get it. People tend to either hate or love or love them.

But what I don't get are the "Faith fan. No Apologies." icons. When did anyone ever have to apologize for loving Faith? And are there fans out there that hate her? I don't hang out at every Buffyverse comm, but I think I would have run across it at some point over the last....dear God, eight years?

Or "Angel-loving Spuffy." I've seen those too. I didn't know being a Spuffy meant you hated Angel, so that you needed a declaration of the opposite if you didn't.

Just something that's always puzzled me.

And it makes me wonder if I need a "Cordelia fan. No Apologies." icon as well. Then again that would be like acknowledging that some people hate Cordy, and those people are pretty much dead to me anyway, so I guess I don't need it after all.

Date: 2009-03-02 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damnskippytoo.livejournal.com
Hmm. I haven't seen these icons of which you speak. I think I may be out of the loop.

Re Faith, I think there would definitely be people who hate Faith. I'm pretty sure at the time of the original airings, Faith was hated by nearly all who were Buffy lovers. She was a bad influence on Buffy, she stole Xander's affection from Buffy, she tried to turn Angel into Aus and even kissed him (OMG!), and, of course, she turned bad and tried to kill all the Scoobs. Now, later, after her AtS redemption, she became less hated, but some never get over those initial feelings.

There are also, according to that F!S post about Angel vs. Spike, many fans who pit Angel against Spike and if you love one you apparently can't love the other. This one isn't as clear to me why that is but I'm guessing it's because of the one that all must love, Buffy.
Edited Date: 2009-03-02 11:50 pm (UTC)

I have no Spike-by-himself icon. *sobs*

Date: 2009-03-03 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] samsom.livejournal.com
You're not out of the loop. I see them every now and again but it's not like they're saturating fandom. They're not even new, since I've been seeing them for a few years now.

I'm sure there are people who hate Faith *looks down at MAB's comment* but what I mean is, she's not a polarizing figure. One that, if you bring up her actions or whatever, you might spark a heated debate (the way Spike might if someone brought up the AR, or Xander if someone brought up The Lie or the way he sees Buffy). I never disliked her, not really, though I frowned severely when she went after Angel. Funny thing is, I was relieved that it was a plan to bring Angelus out, and that she did it because of her feelings for Buffy and not any genuine desire for Angel himself.

Clearly the answer to Spike vs. Angel is to love them both. Pfft. They weren't even on the same show for a majority of the time, and they are so different in so many ways, I just think it's stupid to compare them - just because they both have a soul.

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