30 Days of Angel - Day Seven
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samsomCatching up. \o/
Everyone hurry up and come home. I can't be the only one online on a beautiful Saturday afternoon, can I?
I skimmed the Buffyverse Dialogue Database for a refresher and honestly, despite the horror of a certain five minutes in s4, I had to go all the way back to season 1. Because even though I had to watch the eye-gouging horror of Connor on top of Cordelia’s body (so essentially Cordy was being raped inside and out), at least there was no doubt of Angel’s feelings for her when he was watching that travesty. I got that much out of it. Plus the whole slo-mo fight between Angel and his crew and the Beast (which I half maintain is Skip’s less attractive cousin) and Wes’ two gun salute. :D And it involved AtS.
No, my least favorite episode is defined by the one I never rewatch because I have no interest in what’s happening.
I Will Remember You.
AtS is still finding its footing; it has had one or two interesting episodes and Angel is growing into his own character. Most importantly, it has already had one crossover from BtVS. So this episode feels like a useless trip down memory lane. A reaffirmation of what we already knew…Buffy and Angel can not go back, and there’s no room for them to go forward. Well, duh. Weren’t the last few episodes of BtVS s3 sufficient in showing that? I thought so. So Buffy, whom I love, is shown as an interloper, an invader, into Angel’s world, bringing the same old tired drama with her.
The thing is, it accomplished nothing. I mean literally, since the day was reset. Except maybe to show that Angel was okay after getting back from Sunnydale. Cordelia assumes it just meant that it was worse than usual whereas I saw the opposite. Lots of BtVS fans see Angel as stalking Buffy in Pangs, not giving her the courtesy of letting her know he was in her town, trying to interfere where she didn’t need it. Well, he said it himself. They’d already said their goodbyes, so why reopen old wounds? He was told by the Powers via Doyle’s vision that something would happen to her, and since the visions were for him, he had to go. Staying out of her sight was about the most mature decision he could have made under the circumstances. He went, he tried to help, and he left. No tears, no angst, no reopened bleeding.
Buffy coming all the way to LA (I don’t for a minute believe she was visiting with her absentee father) to tell him he sucked for doing that was what mucked things up. And she got to forget about it while Angel had to bear the memory – just one more piece of crap on a pile of steaming shit he’s had to hold onto up until that time. So she leaves none the worse, and Angel goes back to sitting in the dark.
If anyone would like to enlighten me as to what this episode is supposed to accomplish, other than spawning some truly horrifying badfic about Buffy being Connor's real mom, please do.
Everyone hurry up and come home. I can't be the only one online on a beautiful Saturday afternoon, can I?
I skimmed the Buffyverse Dialogue Database for a refresher and honestly, despite the horror of a certain five minutes in s4, I had to go all the way back to season 1. Because even though I had to watch the eye-gouging horror of Connor on top of Cordelia’s body (so essentially Cordy was being raped inside and out), at least there was no doubt of Angel’s feelings for her when he was watching that travesty. I got that much out of it. Plus the whole slo-mo fight between Angel and his crew and the Beast (which I half maintain is Skip’s less attractive cousin) and Wes’ two gun salute. :D And it involved AtS.
No, my least favorite episode is defined by the one I never rewatch because I have no interest in what’s happening.
I Will Remember You.
AtS is still finding its footing; it has had one or two interesting episodes and Angel is growing into his own character. Most importantly, it has already had one crossover from BtVS. So this episode feels like a useless trip down memory lane. A reaffirmation of what we already knew…Buffy and Angel can not go back, and there’s no room for them to go forward. Well, duh. Weren’t the last few episodes of BtVS s3 sufficient in showing that? I thought so. So Buffy, whom I love, is shown as an interloper, an invader, into Angel’s world, bringing the same old tired drama with her.
The thing is, it accomplished nothing. I mean literally, since the day was reset. Except maybe to show that Angel was okay after getting back from Sunnydale. Cordelia assumes it just meant that it was worse than usual whereas I saw the opposite. Lots of BtVS fans see Angel as stalking Buffy in Pangs, not giving her the courtesy of letting her know he was in her town, trying to interfere where she didn’t need it. Well, he said it himself. They’d already said their goodbyes, so why reopen old wounds? He was told by the Powers via Doyle’s vision that something would happen to her, and since the visions were for him, he had to go. Staying out of her sight was about the most mature decision he could have made under the circumstances. He went, he tried to help, and he left. No tears, no angst, no reopened bleeding.
Buffy coming all the way to LA (I don’t for a minute believe she was visiting with her absentee father) to tell him he sucked for doing that was what mucked things up. And she got to forget about it while Angel had to bear the memory – just one more piece of crap on a pile of steaming shit he’s had to hold onto up until that time. So she leaves none the worse, and Angel goes back to sitting in the dark.
If anyone would like to enlighten me as to what this episode is supposed to accomplish, other than spawning some truly horrifying badfic about Buffy being Connor's real mom, please do.
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Date: 2010-08-07 09:33 pm (UTC)what
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Date: 2010-08-07 09:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-08 08:02 pm (UTC)Sorry Darla.
It's a very vague recollection I have but in it, or possibly another fic - there were, heh, several - the Powers took the fertilized egg from Buffy after IWRY and kept it safe or something until they could 'put it in' Darla.
Yeah, nope. Not creepy at all.
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Date: 2010-08-07 09:43 pm (UTC)idk, this show does a lot of pandering toward b/a people that is really not helpful, but i do find this episode pretty and david is so good and i love that. and i also have a very extensive personal canon with how he reacts after buffy dies since he gave up being human so she wouldn't. gives me feelings, this ship.
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Date: 2010-08-07 10:03 pm (UTC)When she says "i felt your heart beat" im like ;___;
i also like that it portrays buffy as a petty bitch. this doesn't come to the fore until "Sanctuary" but i think it's totally important to AtS having its own integrity as a series.
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Date: 2010-08-07 10:06 pm (UTC)actually could talk about that episode for years. have? (http://anythingbutgrey.livejournal.com/748679.html#cutid2)
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Date: 2010-08-07 10:14 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-07 11:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-08 01:05 am (UTC)As far as crossovers are concerned, well, I will be opining a little on that in my meme entry this evening. A Xander/Cordelia reacquaintance would have been great though.
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Date: 2010-08-08 08:32 pm (UTC)The only exception is Forever - there it made total sense that Angel would go back to BtVS and both of them were adults through the whole thing.
But IWRY? Totally don't see it. Didn't make me cry, it gave me second hand embarrassment. For the ice cream scene and the ending scene, because I've never seen two actors try so hard to drum up some genuine emotion and fail. Every time I see an icon of Buffy's face when she's crying, it just looks so horribly fake. But YMMW.
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Date: 2010-08-07 10:04 pm (UTC)(And the badfic, ohhh the badfic)
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Date: 2010-08-08 08:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-07 10:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-08 08:38 pm (UTC)Except maybe the very beginning, with Cordy, before Buffy walks in unnannounced and listens in.
She looked hot.
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Date: 2010-08-07 10:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-08 08:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-08 01:29 am (UTC)And wtf with that fic!
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Date: 2010-08-08 08:41 pm (UTC)It's also the worst thing.
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Date: 2010-08-09 01:18 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-08 10:05 am (UTC)WHAAAA--? O_o
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Date: 2010-08-08 08:42 pm (UTC)See above. :D