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Warning, I talk about rape under the cut.




I'm in the Buffyverse fandom - what couple doesn't have baggage??

But off the top of my head, I'll say Spike and Buffy. He wanted to kill Buffy. He tried very hard to kill Buffy, more than once. If he had succeeded, she would have been the third Slayer on his belt. He wore the coat of the last slayer he killed.

Buffy kills his kind. She's built for it. She's kind of known for it. Slayer, the.

So the baggage between them is sort of built in, which is just one of many reasons I loved their whole dance. And I find their relationship in s7 to be extremely special for it's calm acceptance of, and devotion to, each other, in light of the previous five seasons.

Outside the 'verse, I'm gonna go with an obscure (I think) soap opera almost-couple. They never got together, thank God, but I know the soap was flirting with the storyline. Marty Saybrooke and Todd Manning of One Life to Live. He orchestrated and then participated in her gang rape. Afterwards he terrorized her to stop her from testifying, and inadvertently caused the death of her boyfriend (twice), in addition to kidnapping her, etc. His whole life fell apart after he was convicted of her rape and he blamed her for that, refused to apologize until he was forced into her position by someone else, etc. If the actors and a huge portion of the fanbase hadn't objected, the show would have put them together as a couple less than three years after the rape. As bad as it sounds, as horrible as it makes me feel, I would have shipped them totally and completely if they had gotten together, because that couple and the actors portraying them had a very rare chemistry with each other.

But the baggage, oh my.

Date: 2012-02-17 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manthk.livejournal.com
So the baggage between them is sort of built in, which is just one of many reasons I loved their whole dance.

Their baggage is what makes them special. He is not an ordinary vampire. She is not an ordinary slayer. They are natural enemies in a way that Angel and Buffy never were..because Angel never bagged a slayer..

It's the most fucked up relationship on Buffyverse but at least it never pretended to be anything else..

Date: 2012-02-19 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] samsom.livejournal.com
I've said in the past that The Spike and Buffy Story was everything Angel and Buffy tried to be and failed. If you want to tell a story of a vampire in love with a slayer, and a slayer drawn to and falling in love with a vampire, Spuffy is the only way to go.


Angelus' never wanted the fight, Buffy, in the dark corner of her slayer nature, loves the fight. Spike met her head on, fists up, teeth bared. He also gave her gentleness, understanding and acceptance. Angelus couldn't give her any of that, and with a soul, he had a tendency to treat her as a child rather than an equal.

It's the most fucked up relationship on Buffyverse but at least it never pretended to be anything else..

It's kind of funny that Angel called his and Buffy's relationship a freak show, but the real freak show was Spuffy during parts of s5 and most of s6. But the thing that sets it completely apart from other fucked up relationships was that it learned, Spike and Buffy loved each other and learned to accept each other and support each other - when they stopped needing things from each other to cover the emptiness. S7 was a beautiful love story without sex getting in the way. I think if Buffy hadn't turned to Spike in s6 to distract herself from living, the way they were in s7 would have been the natural trajectory of their early s6 interactions.

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